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Hi,
This is getting interesting…
Do you prefer reading the first thoughts that appear or waiting until a consistent opinion emerges?
Cheers
D

dymitr - 27 April 2010 10:55 AM

Hi,
This is getting interesting…
Do you prefer reading the first thoughts that appear or waiting until a consistent opinion emerges?
Cheers
D

Hey Dymitr. I wandered off and lost the thread a bit. I’m not sure what you mean. I’m easily confused… but usually happy!

This answer springs to mind - and may be to a very different question, but here goes…

In playing the games repeatedly (daily for 4 + 4 days or so) with a clear intention but the context(s) left to the unconscious, I have noticed some very welcome changes, such general performance day to day is improved. Specifically, things like being able to access what I know much more easily when I need it, rather than a hour later .

So, I’m not looking for an answer, per se (not linguistically, anyway) because I have (at this stage) no question (again, linguistically). I do have an intention (to develop greater rapport with my UC) and there is clear evidence that is is manifesting - not as I had expected, but hey, I left it to my UC to decide! :D

I’m not looking for an answer, per se (not linguistically, anyway). Because I have (at this stage) no question (again, linguistically).

Haha! As I type this, I realise that so many of my questions driving experiments and practice are being answered in the forum discussions, so thank you Dymitr for being one of the people who helps me make sense of all the nonsense

Let me know if I didn’t answer your question…

Yeah, I think there was a bit of misunderstanding: I was asking about your expectations from me.
I guess I can smell the changes you have been experiencing recently - indeed, the submission to UC causes doing things that are often not explanable on the spot (or ever).
My question and offer of choice still stands: do you prefer me to share with you my immediate thoughts with limited censorship and consistency or should I rather think through first and share then?
Keeping fingers crossed for your growing fulfillment
Dymitr

First thought, best thought?!

Delighted to hear your instant thoughts.  And then… later, a considered version will be an interesting contrast - or not…

Best

Suzy

Suzy Cross - 25 April 2010 06:12 PM

Nope, you are right that it is both the New Code Games I am pondering AND [part of] the Change Format. :D

Rather than the steps themselves, I was after the intention of each of the steps. I wanted some reassurance of my own ‘hunch’ that the spots on the floor were unnecessary ritual in this context.

Suzy Cross - 25 April 2010 06:12 PM

As to the experiments… for now, I’m happy to go with the idea that the spots on the floor are an unnecessary ritual - in this context.

Suzy, first of all, I am a bit lost, when you speak about ‘this’ context. Could you specify it?
I would reformulate your hunch: I guess it means that there exists a satisfying equivalence for for the spots on the floor from the certain point of view. With this formulation your question ‘what’s the intention?’ seems more comprehensible.
It follows that from certain other points of view the spots are irreplaceable, too.
These are my fresh thoughts.
Any comment?
Hugs
Dymitr

Hey Dymitr - I forgot how ambiguous I was at the start. I began being purposefully vague because I wanted the broadest possible responses. But I think we three can know the details now… hehe. I’ve soooo built it up….

Purpose: my signals seem reliable when there is no imposition of language, but the moment I begin a ‘conversation’ (such as the yes/no) I am challenged. As such, I am exploring finding a creative way of consciously communicating with my UC. Or, as may be the case, becoming a) consciously aware of what’s going on already and b) able to replicate it.

Format: to play solo NC games with a conscious (and linguistically articulated) intention frame.

Intention: “to be congruent AND develop deeper and more consistent rapport with my UC”. Note: the intention behind the intention is to lead me to a reliable communication process.

Context: There is no consciously articulated context - it is all possible contexts, and I have assigned trust to my UC to decide the what and how and when and where, etc.

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So, in titling the post “what’s the intention” I was questioning the intention behind each step in the NCGF and specifically, the spots on the floor. They seemed to me to be superfluous in ‘this context’... because there is no context, per se.

I’ll leave it there for now, and look forward to your thoughts…

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Hello NJ - sweet.

Hi Suzie et el.,
Some nice points in this thread. Apologies for my absence in the forum.

So, in titling the post “what’s the intention” I was questioning the intention behind each step in the NCGF and specifically, the spots on the floor. They seemed to me to be superfluous in ‘this context’... because there is no context, per se.

If the intention is purely to enter the HPS, the different spatial points in the NCCF are not required, as you are not seeking to generalise the state to a context. I think what you are seeking to achieve is similar to self hypnosis when the intention is just to experience a different state.

To answer the question you asked in connections. The different spaces in NCCF are to mark out where states are accessed and built.

There are three key spatial markings
1. Observer position (third) viewing context of where HPS is wanted. Intention of this space s to help the client observe from the outside the specifics of what they are exploring.

2. Context space (first position); This is where the client is seeing, hearing and feeling all the stimuli associated with the context. It is important the circuits of first position are fully activated in this space.

3. The playing space; this is where through the game , the HPS is reached

When the high performance state is reached it is immediately taken to the context space. The different spatial sorting mark the two states in a digital format i.e you have state A and state B. The coach then manoeuvres client to context space with HPS fully activated.  The state associated with context will be absorbed/integrated with HPS and the stimuli of context will activate the HPS when client is next in the context

In your case Suzie, as you point out the context space is not relevant.

Hope this helps

Michael

Suzy Cross - 03 May 2010 10:26 AM

So, in titling the post “what’s the intention” I was questioning the intention behind each step in the NCGF and specifically, the spots on the floor. They seemed to me to be superfluous in ‘this context’... because there is no context, per se.

That’s perfectly clear for me, thank you.

What is the linguistically articulated intention frame for?

Good question. I’m not too sure - a general direction assigned to my unconscious I guess.

I originally didn’t have even an intention, with the intention behind the non-intention being that my UC would just supply whatever I needed… But a friend proposed having an intention. It seemed reasonable so I did.

I fully intend to try without an intention… later :D

x

The wonderful ambiguity in the word “I”

Thanks Michael

I think what you are seeking to achieve is similar to self hypnosis when the intention is just to experience a different state.

Hmn, this leads me to wander down another lane, Michael. How so similar to hypnosis?  Maybe I don’t understand… I wasn’t consciously seeking self hypnosis (as I understand it) just resources as my UC sees fit. It’s true though that I’m looking for ‘evidence’ (a change in state) of my playing the NC games effectively… Hmn, similar to self hypnosis…

Dymitr -

This is getting interesting…

was there a different direction / expectation you wanted to explore with this?

The wonderful ambiguity in the word “I”

indeed!

Have a good week…

x

Hi Suzy,

Indeed, my train of thoughts was a bit different. I assumed the presence of the context in NCCF and applied your question (“what’s the intention”) to the steps in it. This resulted in the reformulation of your hunch I mentioned above. I thought it might be interesting to find an equivalence for the spots on the floor or to exclude the possibility of such. All depends on the intention…
I am curious what was the argument, the reasoning of the friend of yours who suggested that you should have an intention
I have one more question but it fits better your solo games thread, so I continue there
Hugs

Dymitr

Hmn, this leads me to wander down another lane, Michael.  How so similar to hypnosis

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You have taken me literally.

Some people through self hypnosis induce a trance state - just to experience the state not do change work.

You are seeking to through a New Code game to experience a HP state but not do change work.

HP state and trance state are very different. The relationship is establishing a process to access a state to experience the state.

Hope this helps

Michael